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Broadband connection at my home, Not sure about the device to be used

  • 10 maaliskuu 2013
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I have a broadband connection at my house but the vdsl 2 modem (A-LINK V100AP VDSL2 54MB WLAN ROUTER) does not work. May be i should use a ethernet router. Can some one please confirm if  i should use (TP-LINK ADSL-Router Ethernet- and USB) and if it works ??. Also, I have two computers and i want to connect them wirelessly to the internet so with this device do i have to use cable to connect to the computer or can i connect both of my computer wirelessly to this device with ease.

By the way i have this sort of connection : Liittymätyyppi: Saunalahti Huoneistokaista ETH 2M (perusnop. 2M)

Thanks and would be waiting for your reply. 

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Käyttäjätaso 7
Kunniamerkki +3
ETH in the name of the connection type implies that you should have Ethernet connection available. Have you checked the data sockets in your apartment? Typically there is a distribution frame in the vestibule of the apartment.

Look for a connector marked with NOUSU (riser) or N from your distribution frame. You can plug your computer directy to this connecor with Ethernet cable and check if you can access the internet.

When you have confirmed that you have a working internet connection, you can use a short patch cable to get internet connetion to more confortable place. For example, if you would like use a computer in room with socket saying for example 3.1, plug a patch cable between N and 3.1 connectors in the vestibule, take your computer near socket 3.1 and connect the ethernet cable from your computer to the socket marked 3.1.

When you have one computer up and running, you can start thinking of wireless connections.

Most VDSL and ADSL routers can only connect to the internet using the DSL link. Usually they will not let you reconfigure one of the LAN ports on the router to be used as WAN port.

Some devices are an exception to this. For example, AVM Fritz!boxes and Elisa Kotiboksi ADSL A2100N can be used with Etherner uplink (Ethernet WAN), too.

Thus, if you want to have a router, you will have to get one that is designed for Ethernet use - such as the classic Linksys WRT54GL or newer.

If you don't have any need to have a home network of your own (i.e. copy files between your computers, share a printer etc.), you might tweak with the V100AP to use it as a wireless bridge.

Set WLAN up and check that you can access V100AP configuration pages from both of your computers. Disable the DHCP server in V100AP. Plug a patch cable from your data socket (e.g. 3.1) to one of the LAN ports in V100AP. Renew IP lease from the computer (ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew or sudo dhclient -r wlan0 and sudo dhclient wlan0 or whatever your operating system uses) and see (ipconfig or ifconfig) that your ip address changed from 10.0.0.x to a public one.

Please note that after turning your old DSL modem's DHCP server off, you must manually set your computer's IP address in order to access the configuration of your modem in the future. And while you are configuring your modem, you cannot access the internet, as the internet connection requires you to obtain the address with DHCP.
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. You are right i have a distribution frame and when i connect my computer with that through RJ45 the internet works.
The next step i did was to connect a short patch cable to have a internet connection in my room. But then in my room when i connected the RJ11 cable with my Hp computer (XP installed) the computer does not detects the internet and does not connect.
Then i connect my A-link VDSL2 router ( http://store.a-link.com/fi/V100AP.html )vdsl port to the socket on the wall and connecting a cable from lan1 on the device to my Asus computer (Windows 7 Installed) and tried to work the internet and go to http:10.0.0.2 it would not work. I wonder what can be done now. Also i do not want to have a home network of my own so i just need to connect to internet wirelessly. Looking forward for your next set of instructions.
Käyttäjätaso 7
Kunniamerkki +3
salmanmanekia kirjoitti:
But then in my room when i connected the RJ11 cable with my Hp computer (XP installed) the computer does not detects the internet and does not connect.
RJ11? That's a six pin connector that can be used for POTS, ADSL, VDSL or HomePNA, but not for Ethernet.

Please make sure that you use CAT5, CAT5e or CAT6 specified cable with 8 pin RJ45 plugs. If it does, you should see CAT5, CAT5e or CAT6 stamped or engraved on the sleeve.

Some old flat cable with RJ45 plugs that came with an old ISA or PCI ISDN card or ISDN telephone without CAT5/5e/6 label will not work Ethernet, either.

salmanmanekia kirjoitti:
Then i connect my A-link VDSL2 router ( http://store.a-link.com/fi/V100AP.html )vdsl port to the socket on the wall 
Sorry, you cannot connect a VDSL port to an Ethernet port.

A-Link V100AP can be used as a router only for VDSL connection. You cannot use V100AP as a router in your setup.

If you need a router, you have to buy a new box that has one Ethernet port labled WAN, internet or uplink.

However, if you turn the DHCP server off from A-Link config, you should be able to use it as a wireless bridge. In bridged mode, you connect the Ethernet cable from wall socket to one of the LAN ports.

salmanmanekia kirjoitti:
connecting a cable from lan1 on the device to my Asus computer (Windows 7 Installed) and tried to work the internet and go to http:10.0.0.2 it would not work.
If A-link V100AP working mode is bridge, you will have to manually set your computer's IP address to 10.0.0.1, mask 255.255.255.0 in order to access the configuration pages. Set your WLAN up. Visit also the LAN section and make sure that DHCP server is turned off.

Saunalahti's internet connection will requires you to use dynamic address (using DHCP), so you have to change your computer's settings every time you want to access the configuration pages of A-link.

salmanmanekia kirjoitti:
Also i do not want to have a home network of my own so i just need to connect to internet wirelessly.
Then bridged mode of operation is fine for you and you should be able to tweak your V100AP to act as a wireless bridge. Just remember that the internet connection goes now to one of the LAN ports. The VDSL/phone connector of V100AP will not connected anywhere.
Ok, Excellent. Your instruction works for one of my computers (ASUS k701J - Win 7). But for Hp Pavillion DV6000 (WinXp). It just keeps acquiring network address and in the connection status -> address type it shows invalid IP address
Käyttäjätaso 2
Have you checked the IPv4 settings of your Pavillion's ethernet card (Control Panel --> Network and Internet --> Network Connections --> Local Area Connection --> Properties --> Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) --> Properties)? Cause the error might be due to static IP-settings. You should use the "Obtain an IP address automatically" setting. If you still after this experience the same problem, please let us know what IP you're getting.
Hi,

I check the IPv4 settings and it is 'Obtain an IP address automaticallly`. By IP, do you mean that shall i send you the output of ipconfig for both the machines or something else. Thanks

Bytheway, just out of curiosity does the inofrmation available from ipconfig enough for anyone to intrude or is it just to basic and no harm can be done from that.
Hi,

Ok, i have debugged this problem a bit and have the following updates.

1 : The internet works when i connect my HP machine (OS: XP) with a eth5e cable coming from the LAN 1 port of the wireless device

2 : Check your Services are Started on all PCs:

  • COM+ Event System (for WZC issues)
  • Computer Browser
  • DHCP Client
  • DNS Client
  • Network Connections
  • Network Location Awareness
  • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
  • Server
  • TCP/IP Netbios helper
  • Wireless Zero Configuration (XP wireless configurations only)
  • WLAN AutoConfig (Vista wireless configurations only)
  • Workstation
Checked all of these and they all are in started status.

3 : Result of ipconfig /all

C:Documents and SettingsSalman>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : muhammad
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : elisa-laajakaista.fi
localdomain
localdomain

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet8:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : localdomain
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet8
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-08
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.211.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.211.2
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.211.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.211.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.211.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:35:39 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:05:39 PM

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : localdomain
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:35:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:05:40 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : elisa-laajakaista.fi
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-36-98-14-2A
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 88.115.220.147
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.240.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 88.115.208.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 193.229.28.21
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 193.229.0.40
193.229.0.42
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:15:38 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:15:38 PM

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Networ
k Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-DE-45-7C-D5

Thanks and would be looking forward to hear from you.
Käyttäjätaso 2
The provided log shows that there's nothing wrong with the ethernet's side. But if I understood correclty from your previous messages, you're experiencing problems only when trying to connect via WiFi. The provided log shows that your Wireless is disconnected and what I would like to see is what kind of IP-address does the Wireless interface get when connected and while giving the error about invalid IP-address.

Have you tried redefining the WiFi settings of this particular network to your HP?

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